[Review] SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to failable

(Chris Lattner) #1

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available here:

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(Xiaodi Wu) #2

+1. Sensible change; addresses a real issue; proposed solution is the one
that most fits Swift best practices.

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On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 17:28 Chris Lattner via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to
failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available
here:

https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0128-unicodescalar-failable-initializer.md

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(Karl) #3

+1. I was trying to build a naive random string generator the other day (but I wanted it to occasionally spit out extended clusters like emojis), and was also surprised that the initialiser crashes.

Could probably be filed under “bug fixes”, even.

Karl

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On 22 Jul 2016, at 00:28, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available here:

  https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0128-unicodescalar-failable-initializer.md

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(Paul Cantrell) #4

Strongly in favor.

I agree that the existing behavior could even arguably be filed as a bug, since there is no static isValidCodePoint() method an API client can call first.

Aside: I would still like to see String follow a similar convention of failing on initialization for UTF-16 strings containing bad surrogate pairs.

P

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On Jul 21, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available here:

  https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0128-unicodescalar-failable-initializer.md

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(Scott James Remnant) #5

+1

Obvious improvement, and matches integer initializers.

Scott

(Tony Allevato) #6

+1. This is an obvious improvement and makes the API safer to use, and
aligns with other string APIs (like those that decode UTF-8).

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On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:31 PM Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

+1. Sensible change; addresses a real issue; proposed solution is the one
that most fits Swift best practices.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 17:28 Chris Lattner via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to
failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available
here:

https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0128-unicodescalar-failable-initializer.md

Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews
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        * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of
Swift?
        * If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar
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        * How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick
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(Wang LiMing) #7

+0.

Maybe off topic.

The problem is there’s no process for the validty of the parameter.

The source of UnicodeScala:

  public init(_ v: UInt32) {
    // Unicode 6.3.0:
    //
    // D9. Unicode codespace: A range of integers from 0 to 10FFFF.
    //
    // D76. Unicode scalar value: Any Unicode code point except
    // high-surrogate and low-surrogate code points.
    //
    // * As a result of this definition, the set of Unicode scalar values
    // consists of the ranges 0 to D7FF and E000 to 10FFFF, inclusive.

    _precondition(v < 0xD800 || v > 0xDFFF,
        "high- and low-surrogate code points are not valid Unicode scalar values")
    _precondition(v <= 0x10FFFF, "value is outside of Unicode codespace")

    self._value = v
  }

55357 == 0xD83D , not less than 0xD800

The _precondition like assert.

在 2016年7月22日，上午10:23，Karl via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org<mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> 写道：

+1. I was trying to build a naive random string generator the other day (but I wanted it to occasionally spit out extended clusters like emojis), and was also surprised that the initialiser crashes.

Could probably be filed under “bug fixes”, even.

Karl

···

On 22 Jul 2016, at 00:28, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org<mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available here:

https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0128-unicodescalar-failable-initializer.md

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(Patrick Pijnappel) #8

+1 Makes sense, it's a basic failable conversion.

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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:09 PM, 王 黎明 <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

+0.

Maybe off topic.

The problem is there’s no process for the validty of the parameter.

The source of UnicodeScala:

  public init(_ v: UInt32) {
    // Unicode 6.3.0:
    //
    // D9. Unicode codespace: A range of integers from 0 to 10FFFF.
    //
    // D76. Unicode scalar value: Any Unicode code point except
    // high-surrogate and low-surrogate code points.
    //
    // * As a result of this definition, the set of Unicode scalar
values
    // consists of the ranges 0 to D7FF and E000 to 10FFFF, inclusive.

    _precondition(v < 0xD800 || v > 0xDFFF,
        "high- and low-surrogate code points are not valid Unicode scalar
values")
    _precondition(v <= 0x10FFFF, "value is outside of Unicode codespace")

    self._value = v
  }

55357 == 0xD83D , not less than 0xD800

The _precondition like assert.

在 2016年7月22日，上午10:23，Karl via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org>
写道：

+1. I was trying to build a naive random string generator the other day
(but I wanted it to occasionally spit out extended clusters like emojis),
and was also surprised that the initialiser crashes.

Could probably be filed under “bug fixes”, even.

Karl

On 22 Jul 2016, at 00:28, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0128: Change failable UnicodeScalar initializers to
failable" begins now and runs through July 24. The proposal is available
here:

https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0128-unicodescalar-failable-initializer.md

Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews
should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at

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What goes into a review?

The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review
through constructive criticism and contribute to the direction of Swift.
When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer
in your review:

* What is your evaluation of the proposal?
* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to
Swift?
* Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
* If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature,
how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?
* How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading,
or an in-depth study?

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