[Proposal] Enum string interoperability with Objective-C and Swift

Derrick_Ho · November 23, 2016, 1:55pm

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

Derrick_Ho · December 30, 2016, 5:15pm

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other
way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?

···

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

Derrick_Ho · December 31, 2016, 5:56pm

Anyone on the core team like to say anything?

···

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:15 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other
way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

Rod_Brown · January 4, 2017, 10:22pm

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose ( EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

···

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:
I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift. Something like this:

    enum City: String {
       case NewYork = "New York"
    }

This can be ported over to Objective-c like this:

    typedef NSString * City;
    static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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Derrick_Ho · January 4, 2017, 10:51pm

The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

···

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com> wrote:

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in
principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the
back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose (
EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings
from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other
way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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SlaunchaMan · January 5, 2017, 6:47pm

Since it’s still common to see prefixes in use in Objective-C, I wonder if
we could add that with a new attribute:

@objcprefix(JRK) enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Would then appear in Objective-C as:

typedef NSString * JRKCity;
static JRKCity const JRKCityNewYork = @"New York";

It’s a minor tweak, but would help especially with mixed-language source
code where the Objective-C code is still prefixed.

Jeff Kelley

SlaunchaMan@gmail.com | @SlaunchaMan <https://twitter.com/SlaunchaMan> |
jeffkelley.org

···

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com> wrote:

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in
principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the
back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose (
EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings
from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < >> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the
other way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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Derrick_Ho · January 5, 2017, 11:58pm

I updated the proposal

https://github.com/wh1pch81n/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/NNNN-Swift-enum-strings-ported-to-Objective-c.md

And I also posted the question on Reddit.

···

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:51 PM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com> wrote:

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in
principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the
back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose (
EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings
from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other
way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this:

enum City: String {

case NewYork = "New York"

}

This can be ported over to Objective-c like this:

typedef NSString * City;

static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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xwu · January 5, 2017, 7:01pm

Is there a reason you're unsatisfied with `@objc(JRKCity)`?

···

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:48 Jeff Kelley via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Since it’s still common to see prefixes in use in Objective-C, I wonder if
we could add that with a new attribute:

@objcprefix(JRK) enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Would then appear in Objective-C as:

typedef NSString * JRKCity;
static JRKCity const JRKCityNewYork = @"New York";

It’s a minor tweak, but would help especially with mixed-language source
code where the Objective-C code is still prefixed.

Jeff Kelley

SlaunchaMan@gmail.com | @SlaunchaMan <https://twitter.com/SlaunchaMan> |
jeffkelley.org

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com> wrote:

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in
principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the
back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose (
EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings
from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other
way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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Derrick_Ho · January 6, 2017, 12:41am

Interesting I knew @objc(name) could rename method names; didn't realize
they could be used on enums.

···

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:58 PM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I updated the proposal

https://github.com/wh1pch81n/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/NNNN-Swift-enum-strings-ported-to-Objective-c.md

And I also posted the question on Reddit.

Reddit - Dive into anything

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:51 PM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com> wrote:

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in
principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the
back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose (
EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings
from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other
way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this:

enum City: String {

case NewYork = "New York"

}

This can be ported over to Objective-c like this:

typedef NSString * City;

static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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SlaunchaMan · January 5, 2017, 7:13pm

Would that prepend the prefix on individual members? If so that’s perfect!

Jeff Kelley

SlaunchaMan@gmail.com | @SlaunchaMan <https://twitter.com/SlaunchaMan> |
jeffkelley.org

···

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there a reason you're unsatisfied with `@objc(JRKCity)`?

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:48 Jeff Kelley via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Since it’s still common to see prefixes in use in Objective-C, I wonder
if we could add that with a new attribute:

@objcprefix(JRK) enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Would then appear in Objective-C as:

typedef NSString * JRKCity;
static JRKCity const JRKCityNewYork = @"New York";

It’s a minor tweak, but would help especially with mixed-language source
code where the Objective-C code is still prefixed.

Jeff Kelley

SlaunchaMan@gmail.com | @SlaunchaMan <https://twitter.com/SlaunchaMan> |
jeffkelley.org

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < >> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com> >> wrote:

I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in
principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the
back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose (
EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings
from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < >> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the
other way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com> wrote:

I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift.
Something like this: enum City: String { case NewYork = "New York" }
This can be ported over to Objective-c like this: typedef NSString * City;
static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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Jean-Daniel1 · January 5, 2017, 10:53pm

In your example, you don't prepend the prefix but the whole name (JRKCity), so we don’t need to define what the prefix is.

···

Le 5 janv. 2017 à 20:13, Jeff Kelley via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> a écrit :

Would that prepend the prefix on individual members? If so that’s perfect!

Jeff Kelley

SlaunchaMan@gmail.com <mailto:SlaunchaMan@gmail.com> | @SlaunchaMan <https://twitter.com/SlaunchaMan> | jeffkelley.org <http://jeffkelley.org/>
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu@gmail.com <mailto:xiaodi.wu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is there a reason you're unsatisfied with `@objc(JRKCity)`?

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:48 Jeff Kelley via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
Since it’s still common to see prefixes in use in Objective-C, I wonder if we could add that with a new attribute:

@objcprefix(JRK) enum City: String {
  case NewYork = "New York"
}

Would then appear in Objective-C as:

typedef NSString * JRKCity;
static JRKCity const JRKCityNewYork = @"New York";

It’s a minor tweak, but would help especially with mixed-language source code where the Objective-C code is still prefixed.

Jeff Kelley

SlaunchaMan@gmail.com <mailto:SlaunchaMan@gmail.com> | @SlaunchaMan <https://twitter.com/SlaunchaMan> | jeffkelley.org <http://jeffkelley.org/>

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
The underline can be omitted. To remain more consistent.

enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

typedef NSString * City;
static City const CityNewYork = @"New York";

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:22 PM Rod Brown <rodney.brown6@icloud.com <mailto:rodney.brown6@icloud.com>> wrote:
I'm not part of the core team, of course, but I like this change in principle.

My one concern in this case would be choosing a naming convention for the back port that makes sense both ways. The naming convention you propose ( EnumName_EnumCase) seems inconsistent with the current import of strings from Obj-C to Swift. Could we find a way to unify them?

On 31 Dec 2016, at 4:15 am, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

I'm trying to revive an old thread. I'd like to hear from the community.

Can we make a swift enum string interoperable with Objective-C?

Currently NS_STRING_ENUM ports from objective-c to swift but not the other way around.

I feel that if you can go one direction you should be able to go back.

@objc
enum City: String {
case NewYork = "New York"
}

Make this available as a global string in objective -c ?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:55 AM Derrick Ho <wh1pch81n@gmail.com <mailto:wh1pch81n@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think enum strings should gain better interoperability with swift. Something like this:

    enum City: String {
       case NewYork = "New York"
    }

This can be ported over to Objective-c like this:

    typedef NSString * City;
    static City const City_NewYork = @"New York";

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