On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Jens Persson via swift-evolution < >>> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
The point of exercise 1 is to show that it is impossible (in Swift 4) to
write a generic function composition operator (or function) which works as
expected for any reasonable functions.
This was possible in Swift 3, but in Swift 4 it will only work for
functions with exactly one parameter. You'd have to special-case it for
every combination of parameter counts of f and g that it should be able to
handle.
The following program demonstrates how it can be done in Swift 3.1 and
3.2:
func compose<T, U, V>(_ g: @escaping (U) -> V, _ f: @escaping (T) -> U)
-> (T) -> V {
return { x in g(f(x)) }
}
func sum(_ a: Int, _ b: Int) -> Int { return a + b }
func square(_ a: Int) -> Int { return a * a }
let squaredSum = compose(square, sum)
let result = squaredSum((3, 4)) // A bit unexepected with a tuple here
but ok ...
print(result) // 49
// Well, it worked, not flawlessly but we did manage to write
// a function composition function and we composed sum
// and square, and we could call it and get a correct result.
And this program demonstrates what happens if you try it in Swift 4:
func compose<T, U, V>(_ g: @escaping (U) -> V, _ f: @escaping (T) -> U)
-> (T) -> V {
return { x in g(f(x)) }
}
func sum(_ a: Int, _ b: Int) -> Int { return a + b }
func square(_ a: Int) -> Int { return a * a }
// let squaredSum = compose(square, sum) // Error! (without the
compose-variant below)
// The error message is:
// Cannot convert value of type `(Int, Int) -> Int` to
// expected argument type `(_) -> _`
// That's it, it is simply not possible!
// You'd have to write special variants of the compose func for every
combination
// of parameter counts! For example, in order to get this sum and square
// example working, this specific variant must be written:
func compose<T, U, V, W>(_ g: @escaping (V) -> W, _ f: @escaping (T, U)
-> V) -> (T, U) -> W {
return { (x, y) in g(f(x, y)) }
}
// Now it will work:
let squaredSum = compose(square, sum)
// But only thanks to that awfully specific compose func variant ...
// We would have to write a lot more variants for it to be practically
usable on pretty much any common function.
I'm sure some will say:
"no regular developers use function composition anyway so why ..."
or
"It's not very swifty to use free functions and higher order functions
like that."
My answer is that this is just a simple but telling example. The issue
(as I see it) exists in all situations involving generics and function
types.
I'm a regular programmer and I like to be able to write basic, useful
abstractions.
It's no fun when the language forces you to write lots of specific
variants of your generic code.
I would feel less worried about the parentheses situation if the
language was going in a direction where you could see how this simple
exercise would be a no brainer.
Can Swift's parentheses-situation be sorted out before ABI stability?
Otherwise it would be a bit like if Swift had kept the special rule for
the first parameter, only much worse.
Out of curiosity, how do you think this would impact ABI? What are your
concrete concerns here?
I don't think the analogy of first parameter label is relevant, as that
needn't be ABI.
/Jens
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Gor Gyolchanyan <gor@gyolchanyan.com> >>> wrote:
Yes, except why would you need to define `((A, B)) -> C`?, If you need
to pass a 2-element tuple into a function that takes two parameters - you
can! If you want to pass two values into a function that *looks* like it
takes a single 2-element tuple - you can! Seems to me that the difference
between `((A, B)) -> C` and `(A, B) -> C` is virtually non-existent. But
keep in mind that this only works for bare tuples (the ones that can't have
labels). Non-closure functions DO have labels, which is part of their
signature, so this is a different story.
On Jun 9, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Gwendal Roué <gwendal.roue@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
Le 9 juin 2017 à 17:12, Gor Gyolchanyan via swift-evolution < >>>> swift-evolution@swift.org> a écrit :
So I wonder if any of you have had any thoughts about what Swift's
parentheses-related future (or evolutionary baggage) will be?
I really wish swift used the concept of tuples **exclusively** for all
purposes that involve parentheses, as well as dividing tuples into two
categories:
- Bare tuples, which do not have labels.
- Rich tuples, which do.
As a consequence, here's a list of statements that would become true:
- All functions take exactly one parameter, which is a tuple.
- All closures (a.k.a. function pointers) take exactly one parameter,
which is a bare tuple.
- All functions return exactly one parameter, which is a tuple.
- Pattern matching is done on a single bare tuple using a single bare
tuple pattern.
The currently ongoing proposal to make a single-element tuple
auto-flatten would work extremely well with this idea, by making all these
changes completely backward-compatible.
If I have well understood, Swift has evolved away from this.
If what you describe were true, added to the fact that there is no such
thing as a one-element tuple in the language, then (A,B) -> C and ((A, B))
-> C could not be distinguished, for the simple reason that ((A, B)) -> C
could not be defined.
For ((A, B)) -> C to be defined, we'd need a function that takes
exactly one parameter, which is a tuple (your idea), whose single element
is a tuple (oops, there is no single-valued tuples).
No opinion here, just they way I have understood recent Swift history.
Gwendal
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