Coercion problems on Linux


(Pushkar N Kulkarni) #1

Hi Tony/Philippe,

There’ve been a few bug reports related to the coercion problems between Swift and Foundation types on Linux. For example this one: https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2477 (Double/Int don’t coerce with NSNumber on Linux).

Pushkar N Kulkarni,

IBM Runtimes

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability - Edsger W. Dijkstra

Is there any general approach you’d suggest to work around this coercion limitation on Linux?


(Philippe Hausler) #2

That particular issue we could plaster over with generics. In general it is because we don't have bridging on Linux.

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Pushkar N Kulkarni <pushkar.nk@in.ibm.com> wrote:

Hi Tony/Philippe,

There've been a few bug reports related to the coercion problems between Swift and Foundation types on Linux. For example this one: https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2477 (Double/Int don't coerce with NSNumber on Linux).

Is there any general approach you'd suggest to work around this coercion limitation on Linux?

Pushkar N Kulkarni,
IBM Runtimes

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability - Edsger W. Dijkstra


(Pushkar N Kulkarni) #3

Hi Philippe,

Thanks for your response! I have one more question.

Will we have it in future? Pardon my ignorance.

Pushkar N Kulkarni,

IBM Runtimes

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability - Edsger W. Dijkstra

>> In general it is because we don’t have bridging on Linux.

That particular issue we could plaster over with generics. In general it is because we don’t have bridging on Linux.

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Pushkar N Kulkarni pushkar.nk@in.ibm.com wrote:

Hi Tony/Philippe,

There’ve been a few bug reports related to the coercion problems between Swift and Foundation types on Linux. For example this one: https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2477 (Double/Int don’t coerce with NSNumber on Linux).

Pushkar N Kulkarni,

IBM Runtimes

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability - Edsger W. Dijkstra

Is there any general approach you’d suggest to work around this coercion limitation on Linux?

To: Pushkar N Kulkarni/India/IBM@IBMIN
From: Philippe Hausler
Sent by: phausler@apple.com
Date: 09/08/2016 09:11PM
Cc: Tony Parker anthony.parker@apple.com, Swift corelibs dev swift-corelibs-dev@swift.org
Subject: Re: Coercion problems on Linux

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(Philippe Hausler) #4

From a technical perspective it is not impossible to do however as of current reference type to structural type bridging is conflated with the objective c runtime being present (specifically present on Darwin targets). Personally I think we need a better answer than what we have today but I don't see the winds changing in the immediate future to support ref type bridges uniformly in a cross platform manner. So the only recourse from what I can imagine is to make methods that take Any really respond to any via internal reinterpretation. The return types however are a different story since that makes a requirement on the caller to do the "right" thing.

Hi Philippe,

Thanks for your response! I have one more question.

>> In general it is because we don't have bridging on Linux.
Will we have it in future? Pardon my ignorance.

Pushkar N Kulkarni,
IBM Runtimes

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability - Edsger W. Dijkstra

-----phausler@apple.com wrote: -----
To: Pushkar N Kulkarni/India/IBM@IBMIN
From: Philippe Hausler
Sent by: phausler@apple.com
Date: 09/08/2016 09:11PM
Cc: Tony Parker <anthony.parker@apple.com>, Swift corelibs dev <swift-corelibs-dev@swift.org>
Subject: Re: Coercion problems on Linux

That particular issue we could plaster over with generics. In general it is because we don't have bridging on Linux.

Sent from my iPhone

Hi Tony/Philippe,

There've been a few bug reports related to the coercion problems between Swift and Foundation types on Linux. For example this one: https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2477 (Double/Int don't coerce with NSNumber on Linux).

Is there any general approach you'd suggest to work around this coercion limitation on Linux?

Pushkar N Kulkarni,
IBM Runtimes

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability - Edsger W. Dijkstra

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Pushkar N Kulkarni <pushkar.nk@in.ibm.com> wrote:

On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Pushkar N Kulkarni <pushkar.nk@in.ibm.com> wrote: