ktoso
(Konrad 'ktoso' Malawski 🐟🏴☠️)
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Meeting notes 2022-08-03
Action items from previous meetings
- July 7th meeting notes published
- Swift survey: Core team has not met yet, so @tomerd didn't have a chance to present the draft to the team; but the team will meet very soon and it's on the agenda
- Swiftly likely to move development to GitHub - apple/swift-installer-scripts
Action items from this meeting
Extracted from the detailed writeup below
Highlight
SSWG guides have been merged into the swift.org website 
The server workgroup has been working on various guides for a long time, and we're more than happy to announce that they now made it onto the swift.org website! Thank you to the website workgroup for the support with this effort 
Topics
- Deployment plugins @tachyonics in progress
- no movement due to time constraints for now
- Shared middleware library
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@tachyonics continued work on prototyping the middleware library prototype
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@ktoso @fabianfett @0xTim and @tachyonics met last week to discuss @tachyonics's work on a shared
- In general promising approach; we're now looking into being able to completely avoid type erasure, and also how to pass context (baggage?) between stages
- ACTION: @tachyonics @ktoso and @0xTim are meeting next week to continue design discussions
- Crypto, SSL
- Foundation
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@0xTim it is getting very (very) frustrating with the missing Foundation features missing for years.
- AsyncBytes and multiple async APIs are still missing from OSS foundation
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@tomerd asked @0xTim to provide more concrete list of missing APIs and we'll forward it more concretely to the Foundation team; should be more actionable rather than the general concern
- Package Index Relationship?
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@tachyonics wanted to discuss what the relationship with the https://swiftpackageindex.comis
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@tomerd best summarized as: they're doing awesome work and we want them to succeed; help them wherever possible
- It's really great to have the community build such projects
- ACTION:
@0xTim to collect missing APIs list and we can then put it forward to Foundation team
- Guides
- RPMs
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@tomerd no real blockers, just needs to get more attention
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@mishal_shah should be able to do it if has the time to do so
- ACTION:
@0xTim to post on forums about demand for stable RPMs to get some traction
- end goal: the docker images etc should be using rpms and debs
- no reason we can't do that
- Ubuntu 22.04 and Swift 5.7
- Jazzy -> DocC move
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@tomerd sswg projects maintained by apple are moving to docc
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@ktoso @tomerd there are some missing features here and there; so other libs don't need to immediately jump over; we're using those projects to provide feedback to the docc team
- mostly FYI, why all those "move to docc" PRs in all those repositories
- we're trying to figure out the smoothest way to adoption etc
- ACTION:
@tomerd @ktoso and others at apple moving projects to docc right now
- Tooling workgroup
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@0xTim it seems like there's a strong need a tooling workgroup since the "language workgroup" likely won't be dealing so much with lsp, swiftpm etc
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@tomerd yes, very much on the list of topics to discuss by the core team -- core team has not met yet, but this topic is on the list to discusss
- such group would likely help sswg efforts a lot since we depend on tools a lot for vscode etc.
- ACTION:
@tomerd will bring it up at a core team meeting when it happens
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