Update on the Swift Project Lead


(John Pratt) #1

You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name
associated with you,
for a very fierce competitor?

However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have
collectively decided
to break this programming language every year or so.

Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is
associated with
a turncoat?


(Charles Srstka) #2

Is this really necessary?

Charles

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On Jan 11, 2017, at 11:18 AM, John Pratt via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name associated with you,
for a very fierce competitor?

However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have collectively decided
to break this programming language every year or so.

Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is associated with
a turncoat?


(Jim Hillhouse) #3

Chris,

While recognizing that change is the only universal constant, still I couldn't help but feel sad at the announcement of your departure from Apple. Thank you for all you helped accomplish there.

I hope that whatever endeavors you pursue are always intellectually fulfilling.

Jim

jimhillhouse@me.com
512-484-9489

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On Jan 11, 2017, at 11:18 AM, John Pratt via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name associated with you,
for a very fierce competitor?

However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have collectively decided
to break this programming language every year or so.

Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is associated with
a turncoat?
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(André Jansen Medeiros Villar) #4

If you parse Chris e-mail carefully he says he intends to continue a core
member of the swift team. He has devoted great energy and passion on this
project as he has devoted to LLVM.

I suspect whatever Chris is to do at his new job he is invested in the
success of this project and community.

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2017-01-11 15:18 GMT-02:00 John Pratt via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org>:

You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name
associated with you,
for a very fierce competitor?

However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have
collectively decided
to break this programming language every year or so.

Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is
associated with
a turncoat?


(Karl) #5

You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name associated with you,
for a very fierce competitor?

That’s pretty insulting to everybody else who works on the project (including the many contributors here).

Besides, it’s just plain wrong. Swift is a tool, and like any other tool it is judged on its intrinsic merit for a job, regardless of whichever names may be attached to it.

However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have collectively decided
to break this programming language every year or so.

Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is associated with
a turncoat?

We have contributors from IBM, Microsoft, Uber and/or Lyft, maybe also from Facebook (not sure), Apple (obviously), and probably more. I don’t think they all decided to invest time in making Swift better because Chris Lattner told them he would always work at Apple. So chill.

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(Derrick Ho) #6

Have fun working at Tesla Mr Chris Lattner!

I look forward to seeing tesla car apps that can be written in swift.

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On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:22 PM Karl Wagner via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

> On 11 Jan 2017, at 18:18, John Pratt via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>
>
> You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name
associated with you,
> for a very fierce competitor?
>

That’s pretty insulting to everybody else who works on the project
(including the many contributors here).

Besides, it’s just plain wrong. Swift is a tool, and like any other tool
it is judged on its intrinsic merit for a job, regardless of whichever
names may be attached to it.

> However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have
collectively decided
> to break this programming language every year or so.
>
> Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is
associated with
> a turncoat?

We have contributors from IBM, Microsoft, Uber and/or Lyft, maybe also
from Facebook (not sure), Apple (obviously), and probably more. I don’t
think they all decided to invest time in making Swift better because Chris
Lattner told them he would always work at Apple. So chill.

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(Muse M) #7

Tesla cars is now type-safe.

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On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:21 AM, Derrick Ho via swift-evolution < swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Have fun working at Tesla Mr Chris Lattner!

I look forward to seeing tesla car apps that can be written in swift.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:22 PM Karl Wagner via swift-evolution < > swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

> On 11 Jan 2017, at 18:18, John Pratt via swift-evolution < >> swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:
>
>
> You are just going to drop this entire project, that has its name
associated with you,
> for a very fierce competitor?
>

That’s pretty insulting to everybody else who works on the project
(including the many contributors here).

Besides, it’s just plain wrong. Swift is a tool, and like any other tool
it is judged on its intrinsic merit for a job, regardless of whichever
names may be attached to it.

> However capable Ted Kremenek is, and I am sure that is, you have
collectively decided
> to break this programming language every year or so.
>
> Who is going to get behind this programming language now that it is
associated with
> a turncoat?

We have contributors from IBM, Microsoft, Uber and/or Lyft, maybe also
from Facebook (not sure), Apple (obviously), and probably more. I don’t
think they all decided to invest time in making Swift better because Chris
Lattner told them he would always work at Apple. So chill.

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> swift-evolution@swift.org
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