Swift 3.1 vs Swift 4


(Erica Sadun) #1

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>.

Thanks for any guidance.

-- E


(Brandon Knope) #2

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

Brandon

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>.

Thanks for any guidance.

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(Chris Lattner) #3

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

August 1 is when planning for all releases beyond Swift 3 starts. I strongly suspect there will be at least one 3.x release. Please wait to talk about it next week, there is too much going on right now.

-Chris

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>.

Thanks for any guidance.

-- E

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(Brandon Knope) #4

Thanks Chris! I wish you and the team the best week :slight_smile:

Brandon

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

August 1 is when planning for all releases beyond Swift 3 starts. I strongly suspect there will be at least one 3.x release. Please wait to talk about it next week, there is too much going on right now.

-Chris

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007.

Thanks for any guidance.

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(Charlie Monroe) #5

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:30 PM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Thanks Chris! I wish you and the team the best week :slight_smile:

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com <mailto:clattner@apple.com>> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

August 1 is when planning for all releases beyond Swift 3 starts. I strongly suspect there will be at least one 3.x release. Please wait to talk about it next week, there is too much going on right now.

-Chris

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>.

Thanks for any guidance.

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(Chris Lattner) #6

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!


(Erica Sadun) #7

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

-- E

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris
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(Brandon Knope) #8

This might need to go through the evolution process:

Keg of beer or whiskey?!!

B

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris


(Josh Parmenter) #9

whiskey. Always whiskey.
Josh

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

This might need to go through the evolution process:

Keg of beer or whiskey?!!

B

On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris

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(Goffredo Marocchi) #10

Sly sly manager you are, but I thought popular culture taught us you used automated schnapps IV's for peak productivity ;).

http://xkcd.com/323/

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On 25 Jul 2016, at 22:33, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris
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(Charlie Monroe) #11

I was kind of serious about this. I'll set up a pool on http://www.payit2.com/for-anything-and-everything/pool-money-for-a-gift.aspx

We should just decide on the target price and choose something from http://www.lovescotch.com - should I submit a PR with a proposal? :wink:

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On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Erica Sadun <erica@ericasadun.com> wrote:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

-- E

On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris
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(Michael Ilseman) #12

I’m sorry, but Whisky for the Core Team is an additive feature and will have to be deferred until Swift 4.

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Charlie Monroe via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I was kind of serious about this. I'll set up a pool on http://www.payit2.com/for-anything-and-everything/pool-money-for-a-gift.aspx

We should just decide on the target price and choose something from http://www.lovescotch.com - should I submit a PR with a proposal? :wink:

On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Erica Sadun <erica@ericasadun.com> wrote:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

-- E

On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris
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(Daniel Duan) #13

:clap: slow :clap: clap :clap:

Daniel Duan

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Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Michael Ilseman via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I’m sorry, but Whisky for the Core Team is an additive feature and will have to be deferred until Swift 4.

On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Charlie Monroe via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I was kind of serious about this. I'll set up a pool on http://www.payit2.com/for-anything-and-everything/pool-money-for-a-gift.aspx

We should just decide on the target price and choose something from http://www.lovescotch.com - should I submit a PR with a proposal? :wink:

On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Erica Sadun <erica@ericasadun.com> wrote:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

-- E

On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

-Chris
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