Swift 3.1 vs Swift 4

Erica_Sadun · 2016-07-25T16:55:03.000Z

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065\) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>\.

Thanks for any guidance.

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Brandon_Knope · 2016-07-25T17:02:08.000Z

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

Brandon

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065\) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>\.

Thanks for any guidance.

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Chris_Lattner · 2016-07-25T18:34:42.000Z

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

August 1 is when planning for all releases beyond Swift 3 starts. I strongly suspect there will be at least one 3.x release. Please wait to talk about it next week, there is too much going on right now.

-Chris

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065\) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>\.

Thanks for any guidance.

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Brandon_Knope · 2016-07-25T19:30:39.000Z

Thanks Chris! I wish you and the team the best week :)

Brandon

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

August 1 is when planning for all releases beyond Swift 3 starts. I strongly suspect there will be at least one 3.x release. Please wait to talk about it next week, there is too much going on right now.

-Chris

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065\) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007.

Thanks for any guidance.

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Charlie_Monroe1 · 2016-07-25T19:41:06.000Z

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:30 PM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

Thanks Chris! I wish you and the team the best week :)

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com <mailto:clattner@apple.com>> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

+1 for clarification

Swift 4 begins August 1st…does this mean Swift 3.* are only for bug fixes and anything that has been approved and has not made it into 3.0?

August 1 is when planning for all releases beyond Swift 3 starts. I strongly suspect there will be at least one 3.x release. Please wait to talk about it next week, there is too much going on right now.

-Chris

Brandon

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:

Will there be a door of opportunity to propose for Swift 3.1 rather than Swift 4 after 8/1? I've been sitting on `sequence(first, next, while)` (https://github.com/erica/swift/tree/unfold, https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-2065\) because it's additive. I think it will do a lot to ameliorate the ill-will raised by SE-0007 <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0007-remove-c-style-for-loops.md>\.

Thanks for any guidance.

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Chris_Lattner · 2016-07-25T21:33:03.000Z

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Erica_Sadun · 2016-07-25T22:19:28.000Z

Yelp

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*kof*

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris
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Brandon_Knope · 2016-07-25T21:49:58.000Z

This might need to go through the evolution process:

Keg of beer or whiskey?!!

B

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris

Josh_Parmenter · 2016-07-25T21:52:25.000Z

whiskey. Always whiskey.
Josh

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

This might need to go through the evolution process:

Keg of beer or whiskey?!!

B

On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris

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Panajev · 2016-07-25T23:07:18.000Z

Sly sly manager you are, but I thought popular culture taught us you used automated schnapps IV's for peak productivity ;).

xkcd.com

Ballmer Peak

Apple uses automated schnapps IVs.

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On 25 Jul 2016, at 22:33, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris
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Charlie_Monroe1 · 2016-07-26T05:37:34.000Z

I was kind of serious about this. I'll set up a pool on PayIt2 Collect Money & Be Organized

We should just decide on the target price and choose something from http://www.lovescotch.com - should I submit a PR with a proposal? ;)

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On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Erica Sadun <erica@ericasadun.com> wrote:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris
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Michael_Ilseman · 2016-07-26T16:14:42.000Z

I’m sorry, but Whisky for the Core Team is an additive feature and will have to be deferred until Swift 4.

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Charlie Monroe via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I was kind of serious about this. I'll set up a pool on PayIt2 Collect Money & Be Organized

We should just decide on the target price and choose something from http://www.lovescotch.com - should I submit a PR with a proposal? ;)

On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Erica Sadun <erica@ericasadun.com> wrote:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris
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dduan · 2016-07-26T16:28:14.000Z

slow clap

Daniel Duan

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On Jul 26, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Michael Ilseman via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I’m sorry, but Whisky for the Core Team is an additive feature and will have to be deferred until Swift 4.

On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Charlie Monroe via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

I was kind of serious about this. I'll set up a pool on PayIt2 Collect Money & Be Organized

We should just decide on the target price and choose something from http://www.lovescotch.com - should I submit a PR with a proposal? ;)

On Jul 26, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Erica Sadun <erica@ericasadun.com> wrote:

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=liquor+delivery&find_loc=cupertino,+CA

*kof*

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On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Charlie Monroe <charlie@charliemonroe.net> wrote:

I kinda wish that there was a pool where we could all chip in for a keg of beer and a large bottle of whiskey for the team after the official release of Swift 3, so that they can celebrate it properly!

Given the ambient stress level, I think it would call for a keg of whiskey :-) :-)

-Chris
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