# SSWG - May 22, 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Server\ **Tags:** sswg-meeting-notes\ **Created:** [June 4, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.swift.org/t/sswg-may-22-2024/72238 "2024-06-04T11:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tiborbodecs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/swift/user_avatar/forums.swift.org/tiborbodecs/32/32508_2.png) [@tiborbodecs](https://forums.swift.org/u/tiborbodecs)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.swift.org/t/sswg-may-22-2024/72238/1 "2024-06-04T11:37:52Z")
# SSWG meeting notes - May 22, 2024 ## Attendees - @0xTim - @finestructure - @FranzBusch - @gwynne - @jbelkins - @ktoso - @sebsto - @tachyonics - @taylorswift - @tiborbodecs * * * ## Swift Lambda VSCode extension We've got two guests Steven Van Impe & Marwane Koutar (AWS internship @sebsto was the mentor). They created a VSCode extension to facilitate the development of a Swift Lambda function. ### Live demo - templates to initialize a project, such as API to Lambda - utilizes a Makefile to bundle a zip file & the binary - local invoke feature: test the Lambda functions locally - automatic deployment from the VSCode extension - remote invoke: call the deployed lambda function remotely ### Swift Lambda VSCode extension Extension is publicly available: just search for - Swift Lambda. - Source is under swift-on-server-community @ GitHub - Custom template support, everyone can create templates - Early sneak peak, feedbacks are appreciated * * * ## 2024 goals ### Concurrency & Structured Concurrency adoptions - Guide for structured concurrency @FranzBusch @Joannis_Orlandos - Overview of where we are standing with our libraries and the remaining work @FranzBusch ### Swift 6 - Compatibility testing the packages @finestructure - NIO needs to finalize its Sendable annotations @FranzBusch ### Marketing - Important to address ongoing discussions on forums, clarify misleading benchmarks @ktoso - Think about two guides that either need to be overhauled or created from scratch - Build out integrated example project @FranzBusch @tiborbodecs - User group meetings @Joannis_Orlandos & @sebsto - [Swift Server Side Meetup #02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgON3lsCRwo) - Show-case two server side projects/success stories @0xTim @ktoso - [swiftonserver.com](http://swiftonserver.com) @tiborbodecs @Joannis_Orlandos @taylorswift - Integrated with [swiftinit.org](https://swiftinit.org/), including tooltip support - Open to article contributions - Can leverage our subscriber list ### Tooling - Apple interested in taking over Swiftly project - WIP @FranzBusch ### HTTP server and middlewares - Hummingbird is progressing well @Joannis_Orlandos @adam-fowler @FranzBusch @tachyonics @tiborbodecs ### Benchmarks - Get NIO benchmark results & share it with the compiler team @adam-fowler @tachyonics @Joannis_Orlandos @FranzBusch * * * ## Agenda ### Josh Elkins @jbelkins - Re-introduction to the workgroup members - Upcoming product launch around September - Can't commit time to SSWG until the end of the summer @FranzBusch - It is valuable to provide feedbacks and keep attending the meetings ### Swift version support @FranzBusch - Swift projects support the last 3 versions or the versions from when they were released ### Benchmarks @ktoso - Recent forum thread about Swift benchmarks - [link1](https://forums.swift.org/t/standard-vapor-website-drops-1-5-of-requests-even-at-concurrency-of-100/71583/170), [link2](https://wadetregaskis.com/swift-sucks-at-web-serving-or-does-it/) @ktoso - Idea: - Baseline benchmark, that we run somewhere or give instructions how to run it - Share the results with the compiler team + optimize based on the results - For example an http workload or something similar @FranzBusch - NIO HTTP server benchmark instead of Vapor benchmarks - NIO optimization with ownership modifiers for example - Framework level benchmarking brings in too much complexity @ktoso - Benchmarking goals: 1. Make compiler folks to work on the issues 2. Actually improve the numbers @FranzBusch - Propose to roll benchmarking into the SSWG goal this year. @tachyonics - Do we want to benchmark AWS Lambdas? @sebsto - Already benchmarking HB & Vapor inside Lambdas, common use-case, but no exact method ### Showcase @Tim - Showcase - [link](https://web.dev/case-studies/goodnotes?hl=en) @sebsto - Maybe a good candidate for an upcoming meetup around September? @ktoso - I have a contact there, I can ask about this. ### [swift.org](http://swift.org) - SSWG related pages - Work in progress @tiborbodecs @Joannis_Orlandos - Public fork available [here](https://github.com/swift-on-server/swift-org-website). - Add OpenAPI related tutorials to the top level page ask @Honza_Dvorsky about this. @ktoso - Add distributed actors guide, contact @Joannis_Orlandos + @tiborbodecs @tachyonics - Why choose vapor or hummingbird? (pros / cons) @0xTim - Listing companies is going to be problematic, listing other tutorial sites should be fine. @tiborbodecs - Will continue to work on the website together with @Joannis_Orlandos * * * ## Action items ### Previous 🅰 @finestructure to share more details about Swift 6 testing process 🅰 @taylorswift , @FranzBusch triage \_NIODataStructures compiler crash 🅰 @FranzBusch to add explanation for last-three-versions toolchain requirement to [swift.org](http://swift.org) 🅰 @Joannis_Orlandos to make forums post promoting [swiftonserver.com](http://swiftonserver.com) 1 guides 🅰 @Joannis_Orlandos , @taylorswift to make announcement about swiftonserver + swiftinit docs integration ### Current 🅰 @finestructure provide Swift 6 test results for Apple & SSWG repos 🅰 @ktoso investigate task group crash 🅰 @ktoso @FranzBusch announce new SSWG members 🅰 @ktoso ask about showcase & upcoming meetup candidate around September 🅰 @taylorswift @FranzBusch triage \_NIODataStructures compiler crash 🅰 @FranzBusch send an invitation to @tib for the HTTP server middleware repository 🅰 @FranzBusch add explanation for last-three-versions toolchain requirement to [swift.org](http://swift.org) 🅰 @Joannis_Orlandos make forums post promoting [swiftonserver.com](http://swiftonserver.com) guides 🅰 @Joannis_Orlandos @taylorswift make announcement about [swiftonserver.com](http://swiftonserver.com) + [swiftinit.org](http://swiftinit.org) integration 🅰 @sebsto @tiborbodecs review and update [swift.org](http://swift.org) deployment guides (AWS & others) 🅰 @tiborbodecs and @Joannis_Orlandos update [swift.org](http://swift.org) website SSWG related pages